NEWSLETTER NO. 53 OF 16 JUNE 2009

1. NEWS AND CURRENT AFFAIRS

1.1 A correction
In our Newsletter 52 we mentioned a biography in English of Sambhaji, son of Shivaji. The author was Dr Kamal Gokhale not Dr Vaidya as we stated.
Name of her book is Chhatrapati Sambhaji, Navakamal Publication, Pune, 1978

1.2 Package offered.
Godbole now offers a package of his books and a CD. The books are -
Taj Mahal: Simple Analysis of a Great Deception. (2nd edition 2007)
Why Rewrite Indian History (2nd edition 2007).

The CD has nine PowerPoint presentations: -
1st is on historical arguments on Taj Mahal (125 slides)
2nd is called Unseen Taj Mahal (91 slides)
3rd is called How the Taj legend grew (240 slides)
(Godbole has now added his letter to Dr Mate, of Deccan College, Pune.
It is dated 23 October 1982. Dr Mate never answered any of Godbole's questions)
Taj Chronology 1/2/3/4 (information in tabular form)
Taj Mahal - a PPT presentation (useful for a one hour programme)

Special London Tour (see below)

* On 28 March 2009 one package was sent to Shree Ramesh Shinde of Hindu Janajagruti Samiti, Maharashtra. Another one was sent to a retired Captain of the Indian Army, now living in Bangalore. He wrote, "I have received your book and CD. I must say it is well researched and excellent material."

1.3 Article on Taj Mahal
Our friend Rajesh Patil from Pune had forwarded Godbole's short article on Taj Mahal to SAAMANAA, the paper of Shiva Sena, for publication. We do not know if the editor of Samana published it.

1.4 Godbole's Website
All of Godbole's research is now on the following web-site www.satyashodh.com.
Summaries of ALL newsletters up to NL 47 have been added. Godbole is now working on summaries of newsletters 48 to 52.

1.5 Web-site on Savarkar
Please visit www.savarkar.org and let Godbole have your reactions.
Godbole has sent following photos for inclusion in the web-site -
> International Court of Justice in The Hague where fate of Savarkar was decided in 1911 (photo sent by Girish Thakur of Holland)
> House in Paris where Shyamji Krishnavarma lived
> House in Paris where Madam Cama lived and from where she sold copies of Savarkar's book Indian War of Independence, 1857
(Both photos were sent by Shashi Dharmadhikari of Paris)

1.6 Alexander the Terrible
Do you listen to BBC Radio 4 programme Sunday, broadcast on Sunday mornings from 07:10 to 08:00? It is worth listening. On 22 March 2009 they talked about the Zoroastrians (Parsees) who were celebrating the festival of Naoroz. The spokesman of Parsees said, "Historians call the Greek King - Alexander as Alexander the Great. We call him - Alexander the Terrible, because during his invasion of Persia he destroyed large number of our temples!!"
Compared to this person, one must wonder, why are we Hindus always so timid?

1.7 Muslim danger to Britain : 3 in 4 terror plots footed in Pakistan

On 15 December 2008 METRO the free paper of London published a report by Jo Steele. He said -

Three in four of the most serious terror plots investigated by British police are linked to al-Qaeda sympathisers in Pakistan, Gordon Brown warned yesterday. The grim statistic meant it was 'time for action, not words' from Pakistan to root out and investigate threats, the prime minister said in Islamabad. He agreed a 'pact against terror' with President Asif Ali Zardari and promised £6million to help the country tackle extremism.

'What can happen in Afghanistan and Pakistan can end up with people in Britain feeling less secure,' Mr Brown said. 'That is why I want to remove the chain of terror that links terrorists across the globe.'

He also urged Mr Zardari to work with Indian police investigating last month's Mumbai terror attacks, which he blamed on a Pakistani group. Mr Brown was speaking at the end of a two-day tour of south Asia which also saw him visit India and British troops fighting in Afghanistan. He told Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh that British police might want to question the sole surviving gunman from the Mumbai massacre to gain intelligence. In Islamabad, he made it clear Britain thought the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba group was responsible for the attack and said Mr Zardari had promised to take action against the militants.

The £6million terror fund would be spent on anti-car bomb equipment and educating people against extremism, Mr Brown added.

1.8 The story of Binyam Mohamed
This Muslim was released from Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba, by the Americans and returned to Britain in March 2009. His interview was published by The Guardian on 8 March 2009, page 7. We are horrified by his story of torture. However, there are some interesting details. It is surprising how the British liberals do not ask even elementary questions when it comes to Muslim terrorists.

B Mohamed says -
"They had fed me enough through their questions for me to make up what they wanted to hear. I confessed to it all. I said Khalid Sheikh Mohammed had given me a false passport after I was stopped the first time in Karachi and that I had met Osama bin Laden 30 times. None of it was true. The British could have stopped the torture, because they knew I had tried to use the same passport at Karachi both times"

Yet although Mohamed's confession did not match the facts, it seems the British authorities never intervened in his interrogation.

"That should have told them that what I was saying under torture wasn't true. But so far as I know, they did nothing, he said. Now Mohamed must attempt to rebuild his life and, despite his allegations that MI5 colluded with his torturers, is keen to settle in Britain

"It's the only place I can call home, he says. But fresh tribulations await. Fearful for his physical safety and the threat of attack from those who question his innocence, Mohamed stressed that images of his face could not be printed.

Mohamed, who arrived in Britain in 1994 on an Ethiopian passport, says he was never a terrorist. He said he went on a fact-finding trip to Taliban-controlled Afghanistan because of his growing interest in Islam, although he claimed he "really had no idea what it was".

As an asylum seeker granted permission to reside here, Mohamed had been unable to get a British travel document, so borrowed a British passport from a friend, inserting his own photograph. (Guardian does not see anything wrong in this act.)

He flew to Pakistan, crossed the Afghan border by truck and headed to Jalalabad, where he met people linked to the Chechen resistance, whose fight against the Russians had impressed him. Soon after, Mohamed completed training involving the use of arms to work as an aid worker in Chechnya. "I was so young, I didn't question it. I didn't expect to fire a gun except in training, let alone kill someone." (But, why does an aid worker need fire arms training?)

Then news broke of 9/11. Mohamed's impulse was to flee Afghanistan. "All I wanted to do was to get back to London, to the country that I thought of as home, to continue my education and find a job." (so, he was unemployed when he left Britain. Who paid for his travel?)

As the US-led coalition advanced towards Kabul, Mohamed managed to enter Pakistan and headed to Karachi airport. He booked a flight to London for 3 April, but officials turned him away after noticing discrepancies with his passport. (what was he doing in October/ November / December 2001 and January / February / March 2002??? Where did he get money for his flight?))

Six days later he tried again. This time the Pakistanis arrested him, setting in motion seven years of interrogation, torture and incarceration without trial. He reached Guantanamo in September 2004, his treatment there deteriorating after Barack Obama won the US election and announced the camp's closure.

"Since the election it's got harsher. The guards would say, yes, this place is going to close down, but it was like they wanted to take their last revenge." Yet it was in Guantanano, finding that he was unable to understand an Ethiopian interpreter that he realised that, if ever released, he wanted to settle back in Britain.

** BBC Radio4 also broadcast an interview with Binyam Mohamed on 22 March 2009. Once again BBC reporter failed to ask any pertinent questions. He should have asked - > You came to England in 1994 and sought asylum. Did you complete any education?
> Did you have any job?
> Did you seek leave from your employer to go to Pakistan?
> If you did not have any job, who paid for your airline ticket to Pakistan?
> Who paid for your living in Pakistan?
> As you do not have a British Passport, how did you travel? Is it not a serious crime to forge a passport?
> How did you cross border from Pakistan into Afghanistan? Was there no border control? Did Talibans freely let in British passport holders?
> Who paid for your living in Afghanistan?

1.9 Mischief making Muslims in France

"Indo-Pakistani" label in Paris murder draws expatriate ire
Author : Vaiju Naravane / Publication : The Hindu
Date : February 24, 2009
URL: http://www.hindu.com/2009/02/24/stories/2009022456471800.htm
"Paksitanis are giving us a bad name", say Indian expatriates. The term is meaningless and its use is unfortunate, says journalist

French police arrested six Pakistanis, including one woman, after the killing of a French off-duty policeman late Saturday in the Paris suburb of Courneuve. The policeman's service revolver was found near the garbage bins of the building in which the six Pakistanis live.
However, media - including newspapers, radio and television - citing police sources identified the six arrested people as belonging to the "Indo-Pakistani community", a term which has angered the Indian community here.

Angry calls
As a result, The Hindu's office in Paris was flooded with angry calls from the Indian community. "I take great offence at the use of the term 'Indo-Pakistani community' to describe people who are purely Pakistani nationals," said a caller who identified himself as Naresh. "It would be the same if a French or German person arrested in India were to be referred to as belonging to 'Franco-German or Franco British community' simply because the two countries happen to be neighbours. The Indian community is completely separate from the Pakistani community and the two have nothing in common. We belong to different sovereign countries."
A woman caller said: "The Pakistanis here are giving us a bad name. They are involved in all kinds of trafficking and it is suspected that this policeman was in some way linked to an extortion racket with those arrested. We should not be lumped with the Pakistanis simply because we come from roughly the same geographical area."
Gilles Poux, Communist Mayor of Courneuve, was quoted as saying: "There appeared to be a quarrel between people belonging to the Indo-Pakistani community. Many shops in this busy locality have been bought by members of this community."

Police authorities in France could not be reached and this reporter was sent back and forth between police headquarters in Paris and La Courneuve.

When contacted, the Indian embassy said it would be taking up the matter with the French Interior Ministry.
Stephane Sellami, a journalist from the Le Parisien newspaper told The Hindu: "I agree the term 'Indo-Pakistani' is meaningless and its use is unfortunate. But there seems to be some confusion as to the exact origin of the six arrested persons. Fresh reports indicate that they might be from Sri Lanka. But we have no confirmation yet. The paper has used the term in order to give our readers an idea of the general geographical area to which the suspects belong. But I agree it is not satisfactory and we shall make changes to the copy."
The circumstances of the policeman's death remain mysterious and authorities are looking into why the man was in the locality in civilian clothing on his day off while carrying his service revolver.

"The arrested persons are not dangerous criminals. They come from the Sri Lankan or Pakistani milieu and often engage in commercial fraud," Frederic Lagache, an official from the Alliance policemen's union told AFP.

The term 'Indo-Pakistani' was coined in France by Pakistani restaurant owners wishing to take advantage of the fame of Indian cuisine. That term has now been extended to the entire sub-continental community encompassing Indians, Pakistanis and Sri Lankans, much to the annoyance of Indians who say both the Sri Lankans and the Pakistanis engage in illegal activities, giving them a bad name.

2. AROUND LONDON TOUR OF PLACES ASSOCIATED WITH INDIAN FREEDOM FIGHTERS

2.1 Godbole conducted one tour on Saturday 14 March 2009. The participants were -
Dileep Limaye from Thane (Hindusthan)
Sathe, an I.T Engineer from South Harrow (London)
Shilpa Tare, another I T Engineer from Wembley (London)

2.2 Godbole conducted second tour on 17th May 2009.

There were 17 participants, mainly students and teachers in Maharashtra, led by Dr Bedekar / Dr Agarkar.
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2.3 The tour is mentioned on
(http://www.hinducounciluk.org/newsite/circulardet.asp?rec=79)

2.4 Ghanashyam Patil, PRO of Maharashtra Mandal, London has shown interest in our tour. He wrote, " We as Maharashtra Mandal get many requests for such tours and in future would direct the enquirers to you."

3 Visit to Hindusthan
3.1 Some observations
* Tourism
> At many places handrails need to be provided for safety and confort.
> Steps need to be changed to make them user friendly. It is ridiculous to have steps 3 ft wide with 12 inch risers.
> Benches are needed for old people to rest and relax.
> Toilet facilities must be provided and where they exist they need to be extended.

* Obesity
Young children (age 7 to 12) are showing signs of obesity. This is a warning sign for health problems in future.

* Pollution
Effects are seen in children. In my younger days I never knew children taking so much medicine.

* 2Rs coin - with Cross is now in circulation, despite protests against it.

* Social manners
People do no make appointments even though everyone has a mobile phone. The visitors do not consider if the time is suitable to you or not.

* On 26th January 2009 Zee TV had a programme called Little champs - that is the kind of Marathi that is being promoted. But the memories of Muslim terrorist attack on Mumbai were too recent. So, strange enough Savarkar was remembered. His photos were seen on TV screen and his songs were sung by participants. (Now, what will happen to Gandhi's India?)

3.2 Muslim terrorists from Pakistan came to attack Mumbai in November 2008. Their dead bodies are being preserved in freezes at public expense. Why not give them to Medical schools for dissections? After all, Pakistan has denied any knowledge of them. Let the relatives of the dead scream.

4. BEHAVIOUR OF CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS TODAY

4.1 The Muslims
4.1.1Taliban blows up poet's shrine
Publication: The Hindu / Date: March 6, 2009
URL: http://www.hindu.com/2009/03/06/stories/2009030658790100.htm
Praveen Swami reports from New Delhi:
Islamist terrorists on Thursday blew up the mausoleum of a 17th century poet in Peshawar, apparently because women visited it. It was revered in both Pakistan and Afghanistan. Dedicated to Pashto poet Abdul Rehman, commonly known as Rehman Baba, the shrine drew thousands of followers, particularly at gatherings where his mystical love poetry was sung.

Reports said the poet's grave was totally destroyed and the surrounding marble building badly damaged. However, there were no casualties. A letter to the mausoleum's management warned against "shrine culture" three days before the attack, said Sahibzada Mohammad Anees, a government official here.
Local residents told Dawn News television that Islamists had warned the local residents to stop visiting the shrine. Pakistan Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Geelani has condemned the attack.

Neo-fundamentalist groups like the Taliban, as well as some political organisations, including the Jamaat-e-Islami, consider the popular practice of worshipping at shrines and veneration of saints as heretical.
In a 2004 article, writer William Dalrymple reported that tensions were brewing over the shrine between students at two Saudi Arabia-funded seminaries and local residents. The local residents said the seminary students -also known as Taliban - had driven out musicians who played at the shrine, in an effort to halt what they claimed were un-Islamic practices. Last year, the Afghanistan government offered to renovate the shrine.

Terror groups had allegedly carried out similar attacks in India in recent years. In October 2007, terrorists set off bombs at the mausoleum of Khwaja Moinuddin Chisti at Ajmer Sharif, one of South Asia's most revered shrines. Two people were killed and 17 injured in the bombing.

In May 2005, the Lashkar-e-Taiba allegedly carried out an arson attack that gutted the 14th century shrine of Saint Zainuddin Wali at Ashmuqam. The following month, a Lashkar operative was alleged to have attempted to assassinate the north Kashmir-based mystic, Ahad B'ab Sopore.
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4.1.2 Editorial in the daily "THE NEWS" of Friday 06 MAR 2009 http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=165954

Dark tides

The destruction of the shrine of Rahman Baba, the Pashtun mystic and poet who is widely regarded, indeed revered, across NWFP is yet another indicator of the advancing wave of intolerance and extremism that now engulfs us. Reports say that the shrine was blown up by militants using up to 40kg of explosive because it was frequented by women. There are reports that militants had warned that they would not tolerate women attending the shrine, and that they suspected them of involvement in immorality or 'illegal acts'. It is difficult to imagine precisely what immoral or illegal acts might have been performed by pious women - but not difficult to imagine the misogynist mindset of those who would banish women forever to a darkened room where their sole function is to cook and produce male children. The deal done in Swat is a Pandora's Box of troubles that now pour out everywhere. The validation of one set of extremist demands now gives them the green light to make other demands wherever they choose in the entire country where they wish their writ to run. Let us be under no illusion here - the militants now ruling in NWFP have their sights set on ruling Pakistan. All of Pakistan. They wish their interpretation of Islam to be the one followed by all of our people, no matter what their Muslim denomination or their faith - which is why our religious minorities fear for their safety and their future.

Are we to see the great shrines of Uch Sharif similarly attacked? Are we prepared to see our cultural heritage destroyed before our very eyes? Remember the Buddhas of Bamiyan, those ancient structures in Afghanistan that had stood for over a thousand years? Remember their destruction, just a few short years ago? Or the Buddhist statues in Swat? Or the agitation for the destruction of Buddhist and Hindu rock carvings of great antiquity at Chilas? Are we to see the ruins of Mohenjo-Daro pulverized because they are from a time before Islam or our museums razed to the ground in an iconoclastic frenzy that will leave us bereft of our cultural past? How long will it be before bookshops are burning, following hard on the heels of music and video shops? Ours is a land which was a part of the cradle of civilization. Within what are now our borders were sown the seeds of human greatness and invention. We are the custodians of that heritage. We have a duty to ourselves and the rest of the world to protect it.
A duty which, as of recent times, we might be said to be failing in.

Pushpa Rajguru wrote -
I just met an Islamic scholar from Pakistan and when I mentioned how India has maintained various dargas such as "Ajmer Sharif" he was mighty displeased and said that such monuments to the dead amount to "Idol Worship" and thus unIslamic.
In media_monitor5@yahoogroups.com, Godbole wrote
True Islam is coming at last. Their Prophet Mohammed forbade erection of any monuments to the dead. Remember the Kings of Saudi Arabia who died in the 1970s and in 2004 (thereabouts). Both gave strict instructions that there shall be no stones indicating where they were buried. All being equal after death - that is the philosophy behind this.
I wonder when Taliban will blow up Tomb of Jinnah. It is an affront to pure Islam. Jinnah's photos also appear on Pakistani currency notes. That too is insult to Islam.
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Again Pushpa Rajguru said -
There is a sizable majority among the Muslims who are vehemently against the worship of the dead. It's the stupid Hindus who "pray" at dargas and even make sizable donations too. The Saudis, especially who are anti-Sufi and would never enter a dargah. Has any Saudi ever prayed at the Ajmer Sharif dargah or any dargah? And not too long ago, didn't King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia refuse to follow established protocol and pay his respects at Mahatma Gandhi's memorial (Rajghat) in New Delhi???
(but this news did not create any sensation in India!!)

4.1.3 Bombing in Peshwar of a Sufi shrine
On 8 March Erama Kiruttinan <eraamak@HOTMAIL.COM wrote -

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/Dawn%20Content%20Library/dawn/news/pakistan/nwfp/bombing-shrine-nf

Thursday's bombing in Peshawar was not the first time a Sufi shrine has been targeted by militants. In March last year, Mangal Bagh's Lashkar-i-Islam destroyed the four-centuries-old Abu Saeed Baba shrine near Peshawar, in the process killing at least 10 villagers who tried to save the monument.

Later in December 2008, suspected Taliban militants attacked and damaged the shrine of Abdul Shakoor Malang Baba, also located near the NWFP capital. But the biggest outrage in terms of symbolic value was yet to come. Thursday's attack was directed against the final resting place of perhaps the greatest and most revered Pakhtun poet, mystic and Sufi saint of all time.

Rehman Baba is still quoted widely and is a household name in many Pakhtun homes some 300 years after his death. He is a legend on both sides of the Durand Line and the desecration of his shrine has been condemned by both the Pakistani and Afghan governments.

It would be incorrect to describe the Taliban as ultra- orthodox in their religious views. There are countless people in this country who subscribe to rigid interpretations of Islam but are not in the least inclined to bend others to their will, let alone kill them.

But the Taliban specialise in barbarity and aim to destroy everything they cannot abide. They hate music, clean-shaven men and education for girls, so they blow up CD shops and schools and attack barbers. Since they consider Sufis and their followers to be heretics, the Taliban feel it is their 'religious' duty to destroy shrines and kill devotees.

They cannot tolerate Sufi music, dance or mysticism, or the intermingling of the sexes in shrines, or what they see as intercession between the individual and the Creator. It is believed Thursday's bombing could be linked to the fact that women used to visit Rehman Baba's shrine.

4.1.4 Ajmer shrine blown up
Here is an interesting bit of trivia that may throw light on the topic:
http://in.rediff.com/news/2007/oct/14ajmer2.htm
(Ajmer blast reveals new agenda of terrorists)
Vicky Nanjappa in Ajmer -- October 14, 2007 -17:19 IST
Khawaja Moinuddin Chisti's shrine in Ajmer, which has a 796-year-old history, is in the news for all the wrong reasons. An act of terror committed on the holy shrine, more popularly known as the Ajmer Dargah, has raised one important question -- Why was this shrine attacked?

Preliminary investigations point out that Bangladesh-based Harkat-ul-Jehad al-Islam is behind this attack. The HuJI has also been blamed for the attacks at Hyderabad and Malegaon. All the three blasts took place at a time when prayers were on.

The key question is why will HuJI attack a religious place and more importantly a mosque or a dargah? When the blasts occurred in Malegaon and Hyderabad, it was clear that the intention was to cause to communal disharmony. Officers in the Intelligence Bureau say that in Ajmer, it was a case of aiming at two birds with a stone.

Apart from disrupting communal harmony, another agenda in the minds of the terrorists of late has been the unification of Islam. There has been a rising discontent among a section of the Muslims, especially in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, over the modernization of Islam.

A sect of the Muslims feels that there should be only one Muslim voice across the world. This sect also believes in the worship of only Allah and Mohammad Prophet and disregards worship at dargahs. It is also said that the Muslim should bow his head only before Allah and Prophet. IB sources say it is this extremist thinking, which could have triggered off the Ajmer blast.

However, there are lot many Muslims who refuse to subscribe to this view and hence they are being terrorized, the IB claims.

The dargah at Ajmer has been on the terror radar since the 2003 itself. This was revealed during the interrogation of some militants of the Lashkar-Tayiba militants. Several maps of the dargah had been recovered from them. While the LET and HuJI carry out attacks only to destabilize other countries, their money managers in Saudi Arabia have another agenda on hand.

Blasts in Hyderabad and Ajmer have proven that terrorists have a larger agenda on hand. In Hyderabad, apart from causing communal tension, the militant outfits had also sworn to liberate the city from Hindu rule and bring the Nizam rule. In Ajmer the terror outfits sought to send across a strong signal that they do not approve of dargah worship.

A similar mentality was seen in Kafeel Ahmed, the man who died recently after the failed UK terror plot. Ahmed, who spent his early years in Saudi Arabia, too was of the view that only Allah should be worshipped and prayers at dargahs should be discouraged as it is opposed to Islam.

There have been instances when Kafeel had fought with some of the religious teachers in mosques in Bangalore. He had questioned the wearing of a namaaz (prayer) cap and other traditions, which are usually not followed back in Saudi Arabia.

4.2 Caste system in Muslims in Hindusthan
Casteism is much worse in Islam. A dead body brought to a cemetery and buried had to be exhumed and taken away as it belonged to a lower Caste!! This is Casteless Islam.

Backward Muslims protest denial of burial;

From: rediff.com Date: 08.11.06 Anand Mohan Sahay in Patna March 06, 2003 02:58 IST
A section of Muslims in Bihar are up in arms against the more affluent and powerful section of Muslims for denying them entry into graveyards on the grounds of lower caste status.

In the last one-year, a few cases have surfaced where the backward or lower caste Muslims faced trouble over easy entry for burial in graveyards and in two or three cases they were not allowed to bury. They finally resorted to burying the body outside the graveyard.

The Pasmanda Muslim Mahaz and All India United Muslim Morcha, both based in Bihar and being the socio-political front of backward Muslims, have threatened to launch a movement against the powerful upper caste Muslim elite on this issue.
Mahaz president Ali Anwar has expressed deep concern over the denial burial rights at different graveyards in the name of cast in more than six districts in Bihar.

AIUMM president Dr M Ajaj Ali, who had championed the cause of backward Muslims in Bihar in the 90s and whom he termed as 'Dalit Muslims', first raised the issue about the denying of burial rights.
He said that disallowing of a particular Muslim burial in a graveyard on the grounds of caste is against the basic tenants of Islam. "Where is the caste system in Islam? There is no basis of caste in Islam, but it is being practiced and creating trouble in social harmony," he said.

Anwar claimed that some people have been denied access to a graveyard despite having vasiyatnama [validity for entry] in Jahanabad district a few months ago. "Some powerful people disallowed burial of Salim Ansari in the graveyard on the ground of caste," he said. He has decided to stage a dharna [protest], along with a team of his Mahaz. "We have recorded instances in which people belonging to lower Muslim caste have been stopped from burying their dead," he said.
Both leaders in separate statements have urged the All India Muslim Personal Law Board to intervene into the matter before it is too late. "I would like to appeal to Board to leave the political issues in the hands of politicians and instead take religious issues related with Muslim community like this to resolve it," Ali said. Though the number of such cases of denying entry for burial in graveyard is still rare, the issue raised by leaders of backward Muslims has added a new twist to the entire issue.

Usually, there is a common graveyard for all Muslim in a Muslim village or mohalla where all of them have being burying their dead for ages. But there still are a few villages where the backward Muslims are forced to create a separate graveyard for them.

In Bihar, backward Muslim leaders have demanded job quotas for backward Muslims claiming they are equal to Hindu backward community. They claim that over 75 percent of the Muslim community comprising backward Muslims, including the Ansari, Kunjra, Churihara, Dhobi and Halalkhor.
The Indian Muslim society is divided into Asrafs (noble) and non-Asrafs. Ashrafs and non-Ashrafs are collectively referred to as 'oonchi zat' (high caste) and 'neechi zat' (low caste). In their turn Asrafs are subdivided into Sayyids supposedly descendants of Muhammad, Shaykhs (Arabic: "Chiefs"), descendants of Arab or Persian invaders, Pathans (members of Pasthun tribes) and Mughals. It is not that all who belong to such castes actually are descended from these races; but high Hindu castes who have become absorbed into them took such designations as well. Economic relationships between Asrafs and non-Asrafs depend on the jajman-kamin or patron-client system. The non-ashraf Muslim castes are similarly subdivided into farmer, artisan castes etc., with untouchables at the bottom. They follow the same rules of endogamy and intermixing as do their Hindu counterparts. Though rules of pollution are less strict, they are nevertheless observed so that people like barbers are treated as untouchables. Nightsoil and carrion carriers form the most untouchable caste whose very touch pollutes. Even mosques are sometimes separate. Among the non-Asrafs superiority or inferiority of a caste is determined by the relatively pure or impure nature of the occupation associated with each, and how close they come to physical proximity of the Asrafs in their daily activities. However non-Asrafs are always inferior to Asrafs. If an Asraf marries non-Asraf the Asrafs will not accept him or her as equal and would not dine with them, particularly not on formal occasions before the general public. The non-Asrafs are also known as Ajlaf meaning wretched, mean. Even after conversion all the old practices remain. For example, Meos are Muslim Rajputs who employed Brahmin genealogists to fabricate claims to Kshatriyahood.

And yet Muslims had the audacity that there are no castes among Muslims

--- On Thu, 3/12/09, niyas abbas <niyasabbas@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Subject: [issuesonline_worldwide] Re: Why the hell are caste based reservations not introduced in military posts and higher judiciary?
Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 12:12 PM

There is only one way to destroy this evil cancerous caste system in India or in Sri Lanka. Revert to Islam. You will be caste free overnight. Yet it could take a while to get rid of one's inferior quality inculcated in to them for years. In Islam even the lowest caste person could climb the pulpit of the grand mosque in New Delhi and deliver a sermon without any resentment from the audience if he is knowledgeable enough and a practicing Muslim.

So Islam is the only solution. Even if you try for a thousand years the Hindus or Buddhists will never ever get out of this evil system of caste segregation.

In India 5% of top caste Brahmins control 71% of major industries. They made the laws to keep them in power. If a guy from the second caste will serve the Brahmins well without harming any of their interests after 30,000 rebirths he may be admitted to Brahmin caste. Hmmm what an incentive. Those foolish people believe this what a pity

Islam is a bargain for you guys .join it and join the super caste within minutes.

Thank God for Islam.
Niyas

This outburst was in response to the following E Mail
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From: satbir singh <ssbedi1945@yahoo. com>
Sent: Thursday, 12 March, 2009 8:39:20
Subject: [political_analysts ] Why the hell are caste based reservations not introduced in military posts and higher judiciary?

Government and political parties are not bothered about caste based reservations. They are only worried about the Vote Banks of SCs/STs and OBCs. They have not made any assessment of how this reservations on caste basis is working? They have made no evaluation whatsoever. I want to ask Government and political parties certain plain questions:

1. Why the caste based reservations has not been introduced in the military posts? In fact, I challenge Government and political parties to make reservations on caste basis in the military posts. Is it not a fact that the Government and political parties do not want to introduce caste based reservations in the military posts lest we lose war through the recruitment of military personnel with low merit?

2. Dr. B.R, Ambedkar had in the Constitution of India made caste based reservations only for a period of ten years and that too only in the legislatures. Then why the hell the Government and political parties have extended the caste based reservations for the past sixty years in legislature as well as in recruitment and promotion to Government posts without doing any assessment? These shameless people are just fooling the country for gaining the votes of SCs/STs and OBCs.

3. How long would the caste based reservations continue? From the present trend, it appears that it would continue indefinitely because Government and political parties want to muster the votes of SCs/STs and OBCs for all times to come. It is a key of success with the political parties.

4. Why the hell certain State Governments rather than phasing out caste based reservations slowly, introduced reservations on communal basis for Muslims and Christians to get the votes of Muslims and Christians?

5. In so far as I could ascertain the minds of the Constitution makers, they wanted the reservations to be phased out but there is a hue and cry for introducing reservations on caste and creed basis even in the private sector so that the country would land in a total mess.

6. Why has reservations not been introduced in the higher Judiciary?
I do hope that the Government and the political parties would reply to my questions if they have any shame left.

Satbir Singh Bedi, BH (Poorvi) 682, Shalimar Bagh, Delhi-110088
(Comment - Such thoughts amount to sheer lunacy)

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4.3 Canadian town honours Aqsa Parvez, honour killing victim!
Family members apparently stood idly by as Aqsa was brutalized and ultimately murdered by her father. They seem to prefer, in line with the honour killing ethos, that she continue to lie in an unmarked grave rather than be remembered. (http://www.jihadwatch.org/) Date: - 13 -3-09

Some time ago Pamela Geller began to take up a collection to provide honour killing victim Aqsa Parvez with a headstone -- at present Aqsa lies in an unmarked grave, plot #774 in Meadowvale Cemetery in Brampton, Ontario. I joined Pamela in this effort, which was a chance to honour Aqsa personally and to show those who commit honour killings that we in the West will not acquiesce in their devaluing and destruction of these human beings, and attempt even to erase their memories.

As things have developed, however, Aqsa's family rejected the grave marker we had offered to place at her gravesite, which contained her name and dates and the legend "Beloved, Remembered, Free." This was always their prerogative, but it is ironic in light of the fact that family members apparently stood idly by as Aqsa was brutalized and ultimately murdered by her father. They seem to prefer, in line with the honour killing ethos, that she continue to lie in an unmarked grave rather than be remembered. Meanwhile, the Islamic Society of North America, an un-indicted co-conspirator in a Hamas terror funding case, owns all the land surrounding the gravesite, preventing us from placing a monument near Aqsa's grave.

Now, however, the Canadian town of Pelham has passed a resolution to honour Aqsa, and to stand up for victims of honour killing. Pamela, who for her efforts on this deserves the congratulations and thanks of everyone who wants to resist the jihad and Islamic supremacism, has the details.
(Comment - The ghastly crime of Honour Killing continues un-abated by Muslims in Europe, Canada and America. They are nothing but murders most horrid and yet Muslims get away with it)

4.4 Christians and rape victims

Murli sent us the following E Mail on 8 March 2009
Mother of raped 9-year girl who had an abortion excommunicated. Vatican not bothered about the rapist -- hey, rape is standard practice in the Catholic Church, right? That's how you attain salvation.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/5375029/vatican-defends-brazil-excommunication/ Vatican defends Brazil excommunication
March 8, 2009, 6:40 am

A senior Vatican cleric has defended the excommunication of the mother and doctors of a nine-year-old girl who had an abortion in Brazil after being raped. Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re, head of the Catholic Church's Congregation for Bishops, told the daily La Stampa on Saturday that the twins the girl had been carrying had a right to live. "It is a sad case but the real problem is that the twins conceived were two innocent persons, who had the right to live and could not be eliminated," he said. Re, who also heads the Pontifical Commission for Latin America, added: "Life must always be protected; the attack on the Brazilian church is unjustified." The row was triggered by the termination on Wednesday of twin foetuses carried by a nine-year-old allegedly raped by her stepfather in the Brazilian state of Pernambuco. The regional archbishop, Jose Cardoso Sobrinho, pronounced excommunication for the mother for authorising the operation and doctors who carried it out for fear that the slim girl would not survive carrying the foetuses to term. "God's law is above any human law. So when a human law .is contrary to God's law, this human law has no value," Cardoso had said. He also said the accused stepfather would not be expelled from the church. Although the man allegedly committed "a heinous crime . the abortion - the elimination of an innocent life - was more serious".

Battista Re agreed, saying: "Excommunication for those who carried out the abortion is just" as a pregnancy termination always meant ending an innocent life. The case has sparked fierce debate in Brazil, where abortion is illegal except in cases of rape or if the woman's health is in danger. On Friday, President Luiz Ignacio Lula da Silva hit out at Sobrinho's decision, saying: "As a Christian and a Catholic, I deeply regret that a bishop of the Catholic Church has such a conservative attitude." "The doctors did what had to be done: save the life of a girl of nine years old," he said, adding that "in this case, the medical profession was more right than the church."
One of the doctors involved in the abortion, Rivaldo Albuquerque, told Globo television that he would keep going to mass, regardless of the archbishop's order. "The people want a church full of forgiveness, love and mercy," he said. Health Minister Jose Gomes Temporao also slammed the archbishop. "Two things strike me: the assault on the girl and the position of this bishop, which is truly lamentable," he said. The girl, who was not identified because she is a minor, was last week found to be four months' pregnant after being taken to hospital suffering stomach pains. Officials said she told them she had suffered sexual abuse by her stepfather since the age of six. Police said the 23-year-old stepfather also allegedly sexually abused the girl's physically handicapped 14-year-old sister. He was arrested a week ago and is being kept in protective custody. If convicted, he faces up to 15 years in prison.

The website of the news group Globo reported that another girl, aged 11, had been found to be seven months pregnant following alleged sexual abuse at the hands of her adoptive father. The girl has said she does not intend to seek an abortion, according to reports.

4.5 Christians and Muslims
From: Murli
To: media_monitor5@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:21 PM
Subject: [media_monitor5] Religion of Peace and Religion of Love clash in London

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1162039/Minister-beaten-clashing-Muslims-TV-show.html
Minister beaten after clashing with Muslims on his TV show
By Jonathan Petre / Last updated at 12:37 PM on 15th March 2009

A Christian Minister who has had heated arguments with Muslims on his TV Gospel show has been brutally attacked by three men who ripped off his cross and warned:
`If you go back to the studio, we'll break your legs.'
The Reverend Noble Samuel was driving to the studio when a car pulled over in front of him. A man got out and came over to ask him directions in Urdu. Mr Samuel, based at Heston United Reformed Church, West London, said: `He put his hand into my window, which was half open and grabbed my hair and opened the door. He started slapping my face and punching my neck. He was trying to smash my head on the steering wheel. Then he grabbed my cross and pulled it off and it fell on the floor. He was swearing. The other two men came from the car and took my laptop and Bible.'

The Metropolitan Police are treating it as a `faith hate' assault and are hunting three Asian men. In spite of the attack, Mr Samuel went ahead with his hour-long live Asian Gospel Show on the Venus satellite channel from studios in Wembley, North London. During the show the Muslim station owner Tahir Ali came on air to condemn the attack.
Pakistan-born Mr Samuel, 48, who was educated by Christian missionaries and moved to Britain 15 years ago, said that over the past few weeks he has received phone-in calls from people identifying themselves as Muslims who challenged his views.
`They were having an argument with me,' he said. `They were very aggressive in saying they did not agree with me. I said those are your views and these are my views.' He said that he, his wife Louisa, 48, and his son Naveed, 19, now fear for their safety, and police have given them panic alarms. `I am frightened and depressed,' he said. `My show is not confrontational.'

Comments by readers
(1) These days many people don't dare have views about the Muslims. Nor for that matter do they like expressing views about homosexuals, lesbians, Scientologists and others. The witch hunt is on and the media is after those who can't 'get their mind right.' In this day and age we've all got to 'get our minds right.'

(2) If they get caught, nothing will be done to them. This government are a joke and that is why they are being voted out in the next election. This government is more like a dictatorship than democratic.
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5.Why we can't tell the truth.

5.1 Blacklisting of British workers
Blacklisting of workers was prevalent in the hay-days of industrial revolution in Europe and America in the 19th and 20th century. If a worker was sacked by an Employer (Say a Mill Owner), he would never find similar employment, as the employers colluded with each other. Many lives were thus ruined. This practice even extended to Atomic Scientists in America. All that the blacklisted workers were asking for was - safe and clean environment, tea breaks, clean water and soap for washing and similar facilities, but they were regarded as trouble makers.

One would have thought that the Employers are now more enlightened. Alas that is NOT the case. Here are some recent paper cuttings relating to the subject.

On 7 March 2009 Daily Mirror published a report by MARK ELLIS, Industrial Correspondent (m.ellis@mgn.co.uk) His report on page 18 says -
WORKERS BLACKLIST BAN NOW

Unions demand urgent law
A ban on worker blacklists was demanded last night after an illegal database selling personal details to major building firms was found. Government officials raided offices containing secret files on 3,000 people with an apparent history of troublemaking. It is claimed construction giants were paying £3,000 a year to the Consulting Association for job applicants to be vetted on trade union links and whistleblowers

Notes uncovered said such things as "Irish ex-Army", bad egg", "do not touch", "communist" and "trouble stirrer". The firm in Droitwich, Worcs, was last week shut down for breaching the Data Protection Act and faces prosecution. Users of the service could also be charged.

As a Government review of the law on blacklists intensified yesterday, furious unions called for an urgent ban. Alan Ritchie, of UCATT, said: "Blacklisting remains rampant. We will be demanding the Government introduces existing regulations immediately. "The fact major companies in construction are involved is truly shocking." The TUC's Brendan Barber added: "the blacklisting is deplorable."

The Government came close to making them illegal in 1999 but finalise legislation.
The Department for Business said: "We will review whether to use this power."

Royle Ricky picket pal:'I was seen as trouble'
Painter and decorator Terry Renshaw is one of the victims of the blacklist who was vilified for his role in the building workers first national strike in 1972.

In 1986 he got a painting job at Shell's complex at Stanlow in Cheshire, but recalled: "A foreman singled me out from 14 workers and said 'its either you off or the site or the company off the site'. For a long time the workers in the construction industry have suspected that there were blacklists."

Terry is currently the respected Mayor of Flint, which is a far cry from 1972 when, as one of the Shrewsbury 24, he was charged with conspiracy for picketing.

The union activist appeared in court with Royle Family star Ricky Tomlinson, who was sent to jail. (Royle Family is a current TV series)

Daily Mirror / Saturday 07.03.2009

Blacklists ruin lives
Blacklisting workers is wrong and must be stamped out completely.

The disclosure that some of Britain's biggest companies secretly banned individuals from jobs demands a strong Government response. Men and women deprived of their livelihoods were unable to challenge allegations that were often inaccurate. And a person's political views should never be a bar to employment in a democracy. Outrageously, some labelled trouble-makers on construction sites were health and safety campaigners who paid with their jobs for saving lives.

The book should be thrown at anyone who broke the law in a scandal that has gone on for years. If loopholes were exploited, close them. If a new law is needed, pass it.

To keep a secret blacklist is more than a breach of data regulations. It is an assault on the liberty of workers and a breach of fundamental rights.

The people who deserve blacklisting are those companies who ruined lives and currently enjoy Government contracts.
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5.2 Case II - £650,000 deal for sacked council man

On Wednesday, December 6, 2006 Stephen Deal reported for the METRO, the free paper of London (page 12)

A Council whistleblower sacked for revealing how millions of pounds of taxpayers' money were misspent and 'opening a bag of worms' at the organisation has won more than £650,000 compensation for unfair dismissal.

Peter Francis, 51, lost his £41,000-a-year job with Walsall Council's regeneration team after making claims that were later confirmed by auditors.

Speaking after an employment tribunal in Birmingham yesterday, Mr Francis said: 'I am relieved this three-year ordeal is over. I am more satisfied at the closure it brings than the money. 'Someone else may have been able to turn a blind eye but I had to show personal integrity.'

Mr Francis questioned a £1.6million PR deal to 'improve the face' of Walsall and a £50,000 grant 'wrongly paid' to a Citizens Advice Bureau which might have closed if asked to repay it.

He also queried a £100,000 payment to balance the books of Walsall Social Services by transferring money from Education Walsall, the body responsible for school improvement services. He asked for the instructions to transfer the money but was told it was a confidential email, which ended: 'This will self-destruct if an auditor comes within 10ft of it.'
Mr Francis, from Hall Green, Birmingham, also said the council had a £1.9million under spend on money from the Government to tackle problems such as poor housing, when the maximum allowed was £700,000.

An audit made further revelations, disclosing details of duplicate cheques being issued and invalid decisions about the issuing of grants along with an £850,000 payment to Serco, the company that runs Education Walsall, that 'cannot be totally accounted for'.

Mr Francis alleged that, when he raised the queries, he was warned he 'might be opening a bag of worms'. He added: 'I couldn't let it happen - the money was supposed to be helping disadvantaged people.'

(Comment - So, now you know why Indian Historians and Professors are keeping quiet about true nature of Taj Mahal)

6. How true history does not come out
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IxczJnMjlc8
Gandhi's assassination

Gopal Godse had an excellent opportunity to tell what had happened. He should have said -
"Gandhi had no intention to die. He was simply blackmailing Government of India to pay immediately 55 crores (550 million) of rupees to Pakistan (at 1948 prices), but did not protest against inhuman treatment meted out to Hindus (including Sikhs) in Pakistan. He was least concerned about their fate brought about by his betrayal."
"He felt that he will force Government of India to change its mind by threat of his fast. This constant threat had to be removed."
"He stopped his fast as soon as Government of India paid 55 crores of rupees to Pakistan. How long was this blackmailing to continue? We decided that enough was enough. We had to stop Gandhi. He paid price for his arrogance. Suppose we had not assassinated him, Hyderabad would have been another mess like Kashmir."

Instead he says - now we decided that Gandhi would not die from fast, but from bullets.

Gopal Godse had missed so many opportunities to tell the world what happened in those days in 1947/48

7. Might is right
7.1 South Africa bars Dalai Lama from peace meet
Publication: The Times of India / Date: March 23, 2009
URL: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/SAfrica-bars-Dalai-from-peace-meet/articleshow/4305922.cms
South Africa barred the Dalai Lama from a peace conference in Johannesburg this week, saying it did not want to endanger the government's relationship with China. The move prompted sharp criticism from the Nobel Committee, among others. Thabo Masebe, spokesman for President Kgalema Motlanthe, said now was not the time for such a high-profile visit from the Tibetan spiritual leader and added that South Africa hoped to avoid being "the source of negative publicity about China.''

Instead the barring - technically a refusal to issue an official invitation - generated negative comments toward South Africa. Retired Cape Town Archbishop Desmond Tutu, who is, like the Dalai Lama, a Nobel peace laureate, and members of the Nobel Committee cancelled plans to participate in Friday's conference because the Dalai Lama was not allowed to attend.

"It is disappointing that South Africa, which has received so much solidarity from the world, doesn't want to give that solidarity to others,'' Nobel Institute Director Geir Lundestad said in Oslo, referring to the decades-long fight against apartheid.

Masebe said the decision was made last month and communicated to the South African organizers of the conference, who planned for Nobel laureates, Hollywood celebrities and others to discuss issues ranging from anti-racism to sport as a way to bring peoples and nations together.

South African soccer officials organized the peace conference to highlight the first World Cup to be held in Africa, which South Africa will host in 2010.

Masebe said the Dalai Lama has been welcomed twice previously in South Africa, and would be welcome again in the future - but "not now, when the whole world is looking at South Africa.''

"We do value our relationship with China,'' Masebe said Monday. South Africa is China's largest trading partner on the continent. China claims Tibet as part of its territory, but many Tibetans say Chinese rule deprives them of religious freedom and autonomy. Beijing accuses the Dalai Lama of pushing for Tibetan independence and fomenting anti-Chinese protests among Tibetans.

Beijing, an ally when South Africa's now-governing African National Congress was a liberation movement, and Pretoria have diplomatic ties stretching back a decade and an economic relationship based on trade as well as aid.

Samdhong Rinpoche, the prime minister of the Tibetan government-in-exile, said South Africa was under pressure from Beijing and its decision to bar the Dalai Lama was a business matter.

"South Africa is a newly emerging country and China is giving it considerable economic resources so it is understandable,'' he said Monday in Dharmsala, India. "We understand that every country has to protect its economic and political interests.''

Masebe insisted his government was not bowing to pressure from China. "We make our own decisions,'' he said. Tamu Matose, a spokeswoman for Archbishop Tutu, told the AP on Monday that Tutu would not attend the conference "because of the Dalai Lama issue.'' Tutu was quoted as telling The Sunday Independent that barring the Dalai Lama was "disgraceful.''

Masebe said if organizers consulted with government officials before planning to include the Dalai Lama, they would have been advised to exclude him and the controversy could have been avoided. But Kjetil Siem, chief executive officer of South Africa's Premier Soccer League, said the Dalai Lama was invited as a matter of course along with other laureates. "When it comes to peace conferences ... it has nothing to do with the government,'' Siem said.

Siem said the conference was a chance to show what South Africa has accomplished - and what is possible to achieve with cooperation. Soccer was once as segregated as the rest of society in South Africa, with four race-based leagues. Today, the nation is proudly united behind the upcoming World Cup. The controversy over the Dalai Lama, Siem said, was an indication his peace conference is "more needed than ever.''
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Peace conference cancelled after SA bars Dalai Lama
Author: Celia W Dugger, Johannesburg
Publication: Indian Express - Dated: March 25, 2009
Organisers of a peace conference that was to have been attended by five Nobel laureates in Johannesburg this week said on Tuesday that they had cancelled it after the South African government denied a visa to the Dalai Lama.

Two of South Africa's Nobel Peace Prize laureate, retired Anglican Archbishop Desmond Tutu and former president F W de Klerk, condemned the government for giving in to pressure from China to block the Tibetan spiritual leader's entry and said they won't participate in the conference if he was not there. The executive director of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, Geir Lundestad, also said he would stay away.
The government, through a spokesman, said the Dalai Lama would not be allowed to come to South Africa to attend the conference, which was meant to promote the 2010 soccer World Cup, because he would have distracted attention from South Africa and drawn it instead to the contentious debate over Tibet.
Postponing the meet, the organisers said: "Given that the purpose of the conference is peace, the conveners do not wish to put the Nobel Peace Committee under circumstances that would create conflict between the committee and its laureates."

7.2 Activists 'shocked' at Clinton stance on China rights
AFP / February 23, 2009

WASHINGTON - Amnesty International and a pro-Tibet group voiced shock after US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton vowed not to let human rights concerns hinder cooperation with China.
Paying her first visit to Asia as the top US diplomat, Clinton said the United States would continue to press China on long-standing US concerns over human rights such as its rule over Tibet. "But our pressing on those issues can't interfere on the global economic crisis, the global climate change crisis and the security crisis," Clinton told reporters in Seoul just before leaving for Beijing.

T. Kumar of Amnesty International USA said the global rights lobby was "shocked and extremely disappointed" by Clinton's remarks. "The United States is one of the only countries that can meaningfully stand up to China on human rights issues," he said. "But by commenting that human rights will not interfere with other priorities, Secretary Clinton damages future US initiatives to protect those rights in China," he said.
Students for a Free Tibet said Clinton's remarks sent the wrong signal to China at a sensitive time. "The US government cannot afford to let Beijing set the agenda," said Tenzin Dorjee, deputy director of the New York-based advocacy group.

China has been pouring troops into the Himalayan territory ahead of next month's 50th anniversary of the uprising that sent Tibet's spiritual leader the Dalai Lama into exile in India.
"Leaders really need to step up and pressure China. It's often easy to wonder whether pressure makes a difference. It may not make a difference in one day or one month, but it would be visible after some years," Dorjee said.

Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch had sent a letter to Clinton before her maiden Asia visit urging her to raise human rights concerns with Chinese leaders. Before she left, State Department spokesman Robert Wood said human rights would be "an important issue" for Clinton and that she would "raise the issue when appropriate."

China has greeted President Barack Obama's administration nervously, believing he would press Beijing harder on human rights and trade issues than former president George W. Bush.

So, Might is still Right. That is the law of the world.